EP 7 Raila Passes On, Cote D'Ivoire Boils, Cameroon Waits and Madagascar Unrest| African News Review 🌍

In this episode of African News Review, Adesoji Iginla, alongside Milton Allimadi and Aya Fubara Eneli Esq., looked at the pressing issues affecting Africa and the African diaspora. 

The hosts discussed significant political events across Africa and the U.S., including mass protests against fascism, the legacy of Raila Odinga in Kenya, the political dynamics in Cameroon and Côte d'Ivoire, and the recent crisis in Madagascar. 

The conversation highlights the role of youth in political movements and the implications of leadership transitions in various countries.

Takeaways

*The protests in the U.S. signal a growing discontent with the current political climate.
*Raila Odinga's legacy is marked by his struggle for democracy in Kenya.
*Cameroon's political landscape is shifting with the potential for a transition of power.
*Côte d'Ivoire's opposition is mobilising against the exclusion of key candidates from elections.
*Madagascar's political crisis reflects broader issues of governance and military involvement in politics.
*The youth in Africa are increasingly taking charge of their political futures.
*Historical context is crucial for understanding current political events in Africa.
*The role of the military in African politics is complex and evolving.
*International media often fail to provide a complete picture of African political dynamics.
*The need for African nations to assert control over their resources is more pressing than ever.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview of Current Events
02:36 Protests Against Fascism in the U.S.
05:12 The Legacy of Rila Odinga
10:46 Political Transition in Cameroon
18:42 The Role of Elders in African Politics
27:19 Media Narratives and Political Choices
28:39 Cote d'Ivoire's Political Turmoil
29:53 The Role of History in Understanding Politics
32:10 Western Media's Agenda in Africa
35:10 Managing Change in African Politics
37:28 The Impact of European Politics on Africa
40:02 Youth Empowerment and Entrepreneurship in Africa
41:38 Madagascar's Political Crisis and Military Response
45:17 The Role of Young People in Political Change
46:47 Neo-Colonialism and Dual Citizenship
50:24 Final Thoughts on African Sovereignty

Transcript

Adesoji Iginla (00:02.459)
Yes, greetings, greetings, and welcome to another episode of African News Review. I am your host, Adesuji Gila, and me as usual, two of the foremost brilliant minds when it comes to African affairs. I'll start with my good sister, Sister Ayaifubara NLE Esquire. How are you, sis?

Milton Allimadi (00:18.018)
Thank

Aya Fubara Eneli (00:26.996)
Doing wonderful, sir. How are you? I'll take that promotion. I don't think I've earned it yet, but listen, with Trump's administration, you don't need any credentials. You just get titles.

Milton Allimadi (00:31.726)
It's all good.

Milton Allimadi (00:40.823)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (00:43.535)
Well, this is a DEI-free zone, so everybody here is what they're waiting for. Speaking of gold, he needs no introduction. He is a brilliant journalist. He's also the author of this remarkable book, which I should tell you subsequent copies are coming out soon.

Milton Allimadi (00:58.498)
That's Santa's thought.

Milton Allimadi (01:09.878)
us.

Adesoji Iginla (01:12.997)
With that said, is usually custom, use where you're at, starting with the system.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:21.358)
I think probably comrade and I would have the same news. Yes, can you hear me?

Adesoji Iginla (01:23.441)
Can you hear me?

Milton Allimadi (01:26.626)
Yeah, we can hear you. You froze for a second, but you're good now.

Adesoji Iginla (01:30.373)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:31.396)
Okay, I'm in a hotel in Nashville, so hopefully the system works with me here. But the news all over the United States was definitely the no king protest that took place all across the country. And if anyone has not had a chance to look at some of the footage, some of the pictures that are coming out, even the mainstream media could not ignore the outpouring of people just

Adesoji Iginla (01:48.625)
Mm-hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (02:02.882)
I guess they've had enough. so, conservatively speaking, they're saying about 7 million people across the country came out. And in a country where you have as much apathy as we do, and then you just have other things that are always going on. People have to work or you have children or you're concerned about how the Trump administration will react and whether people are going to be unfairly locked up and so on and so forth to have that kind of

Adesoji Iginla (02:05.959)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (02:12.956)
Wow.

Aya Fubara Eneli (02:34.172)
those kind of numbers coming out to say enough of the fascism, this is not the country we want, I think sends a very loud and clear message to the current grand old party that their gig may be up if this is sustained. And of course, they immediately try to find a way to, I'm not sure where the echo is coming from.

Adesoji Iginla (02:34.723)
response.

Adesoji Iginla (02:50.94)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (03:05.517)
But they immediately tried to find a way to characterize the protests. First of all, you know, using antifa. And for anyone who is hearing that antifa and getting concerned, antifa just means you're anti-fascism. You're an anti-fascist. It is not a bad thing. We should actually all be embracing being anti-fascist, so to speak. But then claiming it's a hate America rally.

Milton Allimadi (03:22.135)
you

Adesoji Iginla (03:26.736)
and fascist.

Aya Fubara Eneli (03:33.689)
So these are the ways that they try to manipulate people's minds and manipulate the narrative. But I think they were on the losing end yesterday. And it'll be interesting to see how people organize beyond this. that is certainly the news. So here in Nashville, there was a no-kings protest in my community where I live in. There was a no-kings protest all across the country in so many parts. Even in red states, I saw some pictures from Idaho.

and they had thousands and thousands of people out in the streets. So we'll see how that

Adesoji Iginla (04:12.229)
that please.

Aya Fubara Eneli (04:12.248)
how the GOP responds moving forward. guess since they have now bought the Dominion voting machines, they're just going to find more creative ways to use technology in addition to the courts and everything else to suppress the votes. And then of course, we have the Supreme Court that heard oral arguments on the Voting Rights Act.

Adesoji Iginla (04:34.705)
hearing our lagging.

Aya Fubara Eneli (04:42.314)
and whether they're going to completely gut it. And we know which way Brett Kavanaugh leans. I would say probably Alito and the man in blackface, Clarence Thomas. So it'll be interesting to see how the Supreme Court rules on that. But Katanji Brown is definite. She came out swinging in terms of

just really addressing the gravity of this case and its implications for this country being able to more effectively create an apartheid system where regardless of what happens demographically, racially, ethnically in this country, you can have a small number of white people who are the ruling class and who determine what happens to everybody else.

Adesoji Iginla (05:32.551)
Okay.

Adesoji Iginla (05:40.899)
Okay, we look out and see how that will transpire. Rather muted.

Milton Allimadi (05:50.779)
Okay, very good. So Sister covered all the essential points. Antifa, of course, they play on that word because it sounds Arabic, right? Yeah, that underlying racism is just remarkable. The numbers were very important because the numbers shows the administration that they're definitely on the wrong course and the people have had enough. You see?

Adesoji Iginla (06:02.887)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (06:18.439)
Mm. Mm.

Milton Allimadi (06:19.058)
So was very good that the numbers are like that. The numbers also sends a warning to ICE, right? Even the individual operators who are sent out there, now they know the kind of hostility they actually face. So that may also eventually start tampering their behavior. And then of course, the language that people use. People were cursing out President Trump, swearing at him. The most foul.

I've never heard such foul language, right? So obviously he understands that because he can relate to what people on the streets are saying. So that was very important as well. I think those are the only points that I can, I can actually add. I think sister covered all the essential parts.

Adesoji Iginla (06:58.023)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (07:08.729)
Okay. Here it's case of football, football, football. What do I mean by that? The football team from Israel, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Maccabi Haifa, were hoping to come to England in November to play a local team in the centre part of London, Aston Villa.

Milton Allimadi (07:22.202)
Right.

Adesoji Iginla (07:36.279)
And the local police force and the crowd security group decided against it based on what has transpired previously a couple of months ago in Amsterdam, where this same set of fans went around beating up people of Arab descent, pulling down, you know, just basically destroying street furniture, pulling down Palestinian flags when they see them.

Aya Fubara Eneli (07:42.173)
So, I'm it to

Adesoji Iginla (08:03.203)
And for some reason, the prime minister has stepped in to sort of question the judgment of the local police force. Now the question is, the local police force is looking at the matter through the lens of security and safety. But for some reason, anti-semitism has come into it, wherein this set of fans have a history of

Aya Fubara Eneli (08:13.373)
.

Adesoji Iginla (08:33.145)
anti-Arab behaviour, racist, xenophobic, and you name it. So the justification for even wanting a review of what the local police force has said is what is making the rounds in newspaper here.

Milton Allimadi (08:37.742)
Right.

Milton Allimadi (08:48.684)
Right, of course, I mean, the prime minister fears that if it succeeds, it will spark other chain reaction in other countries and eventually could end up being like how South Africa was banned at some point from the Olympics. And that's what that state, Kia. So did the local police ban the game itself or say their fans are not allowed to come?

Adesoji Iginla (08:58.266)
in terms of boycott.

Adesoji Iginla (09:03.363)
eventually. yes.

Adesoji Iginla (09:14.321)
The away fans are not allowed to attend. The game will go ahead, but the away fans are not allowed to. Okay, so again, speaking of news, which is what we do here, news review. There's been lots of news on the African scene. And without further ado, let's start. First, we go to Radio France International and its take on the passing of

Milton Allimadi (09:16.77)
But the game will be played. Okay, understood.

Adesoji Iginla (09:44.121)
Rila Odinga. And what can we say? As they would say in the African space, they would say a tree in the forest has fallen and we're fast losing trees. Rila Odinga, an endearing voice of Kenyan democratic struggle, dies age 80. Kenya's former prime minister and veteran opposition leader Rila Odinga has died following a decades long

Aya Fubara Eneli (09:55.753)
.

Adesoji Iginla (10:11.665)
career that defined the country's struggle for democracy. There he is. And I'll just read a bit. Rila Odinga, one of the defining figures of modern Kenya has died at the age of 80 while traveling in India. You've read the story. What's your take when you hear the news?

Milton Allimadi (10:36.299)
All right, Sista, you want to go ahead?

Aya Fubara Eneli (10:38.33)
Now you can take this.

Milton Allimadi (10:40.157)
Okay, so what is not mentioned in any of the articles, and you can look in any of the mainstream articles, is the reason why he never became president of Kenya. Right.

Adesoji Iginla (10:51.707)
You came out swinging. That was the question I was going to pose to you, but go ahead.

Milton Allimadi (10:55.914)
I mean, it's clear that he won the 2007 election. Instead, he had to go into a power sharing arrangement with Muay Kibaki and he became prime minister because of the bloodshed that had escalated all over Kenya.

Adesoji Iginla (11:01.165)
Mm-hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (11:17.959)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (11:22.727)
Was that with the son of the old man Uhuru Kenyatta? Was he Kenyatta Omwaki that he went into coalition with? Okay.

Milton Allimadi (11:35.562)
Kibaki, So, and then in 2022, he won. But there was no way with the United States, and the reason is very clear, they never say it because he was a son or a socialist. So he was a suspect as socialist as well. His father.

Aya Fubara Eneli (11:36.933)
Blackie.

Adesoji Iginla (11:44.935)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (11:49.402)
against Ruto.

Milton Allimadi (12:03.993)
Ra'el Oginga Odinga, Jaramuke, had been Kenya's first vice president under Jomo Kenyatta. And what's that?

Adesoji Iginla (12:06.727)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (12:12.774)
Mm-hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (12:15.962)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (12:16.069)
Bading-da-wading.

Adesoji Iginla (12:20.741)
No, she was about to sing. She was about to sing the song.

Aya Fubara Eneli (12:20.759)
Ginga Ginga, yes.

Milton Allimadi (12:22.33)
Yes, yes, very, a very ringy tone to it. So what happened is he wanted land reform. He wanted the land to be returned to the peasant farmers and their descendants from whom the British had stolen the land. And Kenyatta did not want that. Kenyatta had a deal with imperialism and Kenya became

what it is today, the epicenter of corporate congregation in East Africa and in Africa as well, you can actually say. So that's why his father was sidelined. His father actually was instrumental in getting Joma Kenyatta released by the British. So they won't allow Oginga to be

Adesoji Iginla (13:00.615)
for that.

Milton Allimadi (13:22.31)
a part of mainstream Kenyan politics thereafter. And of course, to them Kenyatta was very much acceptable. And at some point, perhaps, had Kenyatta not pushed Odinga all the way, he would have been acceptable as well. The people who were not acceptable were the ones who actually fought in the forest, you see? People like Deda Nkimati, who was executed in 1957, you know.

Aya Fubara Eneli (13:50.127)
Mm hmm. .

Milton Allimadi (13:51.417)
had he lived, would have been interesting to see how Kenya's politics might have played out. Because people that led insurrections and who lived until the end, in most cases, were the ones who came into power in African countries post-colonialism. So I think the West kept associating Raila with Djerdamogi or Ginga Udinga, and that's why he was unacceptable.

Adesoji Iginla (13:56.839)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (14:20.128)
as president of Kenya. That's why he never became president. So that's the element that I wanted to add. If you notice in the last election, I think we discussed this before, the 2022 vote, about four weeks before the vote, every article dealing with Kenya's upcoming election kept referring, in the New York Times, kept referring to Raila as a socialist, as somebody who was

trained in east Germany. Yeah, of course. They were the ones who are giving degree, I mean scholarships to African countries. So he went and he studied engineering, you know, and they don't even mention he studied engineering. He didn't go to study radical Marxist politics or anything, you know. So they kept maligning him that way. And even though many people believe he won, they gave a clear signal that we would prefer that Ruto be sworn in as president.

Aya Fubara Eneli (14:52.448)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (14:52.592)
East Germany,

Adesoji Iginla (15:03.259)
than me.

Adesoji Iginla (15:18.951)
So the sins of the father follows the son.

Milton Allimadi (15:23.532)
Yes, absolutely.

Adesoji Iginla (15:25.911)
Okay. Sister?

Aya Fubara Eneli (15:28.515)
But I would agree with everything Comrade has said that yes, he went to study to become a mechanical engineer. That's what he was. And he came back to his country, unlike many of us who go abroad and study and end up staying in our country, or those who leave because they cannot survive in their country because they've been exiled. those stories are bound as well. Just something to think about.

Milton Allimadi (15:51.403)
Yeah, and sister, sorry to interrupt you, because you said something that I should have also mentioned. He went back, of course, at a tremendous cost, given how they were already treating his father. His father eventually was locked up, and he himself, of course, ended up being locked up and tortured and beaten severely. So I'm sorry I left that out, but please continue.

Aya Fubara Eneli (15:54.776)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (16:06.151)
was locked up.

Aya Fubara Eneli (16:12.897)
No, I'm glad that you added that piece. So this is someone who lived his words. He wasn't just speaking about our liberation. He was willing to put his body, so to speak, on the line and he paid dearly for it. But having said that, I would say I give thanks that he lived to see 80. Because people as radical as he

Milton Allimadi (16:38.689)
Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (16:40.953)
who are considered as radical as he is, do not tend to live that long. And perhaps he was allowed to live that long because of some of the concessions that he made, which by the way, cost him some support from some of the people who really wanted him to become president. And yet politics makes for a strange

Milton Allimadi (16:46.146)
truth.

Milton Allimadi (16:53.058)
The future of talk.

Adesoji Iginla (16:54.875)
You

Adesoji Iginla (17:04.7)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (17:08.793)
bedfellows, you you try to figure out, can I do more good inside or outside? And so I'm not judging. These are calls that you make while you're in the game on the field. And it's easy for someone who's sitting on the sidelines to say, I would have done it this way. I would have done it that way. But he ran for president five different times.

Milton Allimadi (17:10.208)
Mm-hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (17:11.141)
I feel as if.

Aya Fubara Eneli (17:33.081)
1997, 2007, 2013, 2017, 2022. And it's a wonder that he was never assassinated. He did remain influential, not just in Kenya, but in terms of regional diplomacy as well. He helped to at least attempted to mediate the South Sudan crisis as recently as 2025.

Adesoji Iginla (17:34.458)
Hmm

Aya Fubara Eneli (18:03.193)
He also, of course, unfortunately, he didn't succeed in this instance either, but he was also trying to get a position with the AU Commission and was rejected for that and from that and possibly because this was in February of this year. The rank and file African leaders are still not ready for someone who is

Milton Allimadi (18:15.583)
Right.

Aya Fubara Eneli (18:30.684)
not just kowtowing and just bowing down to the imperialists. He works really hard to try and build bridges. So of course you talked about the handshake agenda, I guess, between him and Uhuru Kenyatta. And so all in all, a great man has passed. I listened to his wife's comments and

you know, her calling for us to mourn him, but, you know, in a solemn way, doesn't have to be violent. I looked at even the names that he gave his children. So his first son who was deceased, he named Fidel after Fidel Castro. So I guess he gave some more evidence as to why they would call him a socialist. He named...

Adesoji Iginla (19:23.879)
you

Aya Fubara Eneli (19:29.144)
He named one of his daughters after Witty Mandela. He wasn't exactly helped.

Milton Allimadi (19:36.093)
So,

Aya Fubara Eneli (19:39.517)
Yeah, yeah, he wasn't exactly helping.

Milton Allimadi (19:48.893)
I didn't have your son, F. Kennedy. He had a better chance.

Aya Fubara Eneli (19:54.151)
Yes. We are grateful for the example that he left us all. may he rest in power and return. Yes. And for those who are interested, he has a biography. He has a biography that you can access and read more about him because

Milton Allimadi (19:57.447)
eyes are not.

Adesoji Iginla (20:02.907)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (20:08.634)
down. All right.

Adesoji Iginla (20:08.931)
Yes, yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (20:16.923)
It's important that we really understand our leaders, understand what worked, what didn't work, understand the tactics that have been used against them. His autobiography, The Flame of Freedom, is one that I would recommend that we all take a look at, particularly as we celebrate his life.

Adesoji Iginla (20:22.191)
the motivations.

Milton Allimadi (20:38.877)
All right, so just quick addition. Also, in that same vein, people should also read his father's book, Not Yet Uhuru, which means Not Yet Independence. Yes, read that book. The same critique that he had, that the sister mentioned, in terms of how he became accommodating and worked with the powers that be. The same, of course, criticism that Mandela also had.

Adesoji Iginla (21:01.659)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (21:09.628)
in terms of not going the way with the struggle to regain the land. And then finally, in terms of why he never became chair, executive chair of the African Union, France actually sent its foreign minister to several African countries to campaign against them supporting Rila's candidacy, which is a shame because what he wanted to do was

Adesoji Iginla (21:30.106)
against

Milton Allimadi (21:38.405)
to integrate Africa's infrastructure system. Not so much even the politics, it's focusing on the infrastructure. And even that, is afraid of. Yeah, that's all I wanted to add.

Adesoji Iginla (21:46.343)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (21:50.666)
Okay.

Adesoji Iginla (21:50.843)
Okay, speaking of Francis Infleint, goes that bleeds into our next story, which is from Cameroon. Cameroon had an election over the week and it's the new story is coming from the Financial Times, the Money Paper. Cameroon opposition leader claims victory in B2 on seat walls oldest president.

Aya Fubara Eneli (21:56.45)
.

Adesoji Iginla (22:17.945)
Issey Atishime Bakary cites unofficial exit polls to declare landslide win over 92-year-old Paul Beer ahead of official results, he says. And he goes a step further. Mr. Bakary has declared himself the winner of Cameroon's presidential election in what looks like a high stakes attempt to seize the initiative in his effort to unseat Paul Beer after 43 years in power. Yes. So.

Aya Fubara Eneli (22:23.17)
to the board

Adesoji Iginla (22:47.963)
What do we make of this?

Milton Allimadi (22:51.162)
All right. So obviously there's something very critically important here. He claimed victory. And according to Cameroon law, it's illegal for anybody to claim victory prior to the election commission. And he's not yet been arrested. So that, I think, is strong enough indication to tell me that there's going to be transition in Cameroon. There's either going to be transition or they might

Adesoji Iginla (23:04.775)
to renew what you claim to be true.

Adesoji Iginla (23:17.413)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (23:21.131)
escalate the civil war which they already have. Right now they have basically north, south, now it's going to be north and in between in the center. So that alternative is just of course we don't want that. It's unimaginable but it's not impossible. So I think you know Mr. 94 year old stay in Switzerland where you live anyway and let the country transition. And it's so ironic he's been there so long. He's 94

Adesoji Iginla (23:36.295)
Hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (23:45.84)
retail.

Milton Allimadi (23:51.735)
So, and this Bakari used to be one of his ministers actually, and they just, you know, they, just parted ways just months ago. But he's seen as something as fresh, a breath of fresh air, even though he himself is 79, but he's seen as a youth. He's a youth compared to...

Adesoji Iginla (23:55.138)
Yes, yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (24:12.746)
I'm glad you pointed that out, because I was definitely going to bring up that point. Like, my goodness.

Adesoji Iginla (24:14.023)
Okay.

Adesoji Iginla (24:21.051)
Yeah

Milton Allimadi (24:21.336)
You know, go ahead, the floor is all yours.

Adesoji Iginla (24:25.934)
to your sister.

Aya Fubara Eneli (24:27.745)
Okay, so I'm gonna refer to the last story and then bring up this story as well. So Odinga dies in India. Bia spends more of his time in Switzerland. African leaders, African leaders spend literally, I'm sure we're over millions right now of our hard-earned money.

Adesoji Iginla (24:39.207)
Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (24:41.406)
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I'm glad you're going better. Thank you.

Aya Fubara Eneli (24:55.004)
and money that we borrow, so we're paying interest on, on healthcare services in other countries instead of building the infrastructure in our own countries. It is a tragedy. So just... And I mean, it's written into the budget, like, I'm going to London for so-and-so, and the government will pay for you to travel, for whoever is traveling with you to travel.

Milton Allimadi (24:58.86)
Yep.

Milton Allimadi (25:07.671)
Yeah, and it's a loud statement.

Aya Fubara Eneli (25:24.746)
for their stay while they're supposedly taking care of you, for all of the pounds or dollars or whatever you're paying, it is ridiculous.

Milton Allimadi (25:26.934)
Yep.

Milton Allimadi (25:33.244)
Yes, yes. Remember Sheo Shagari, Nigerian president? And then Puhari as well.

Adesoji Iginla (25:36.493)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Buhari as well.

Aya Fubara Eneli (25:39.082)
Buhari, Buhari, all of them, all of them. And the governors do it as well. The ministers do it as well. That is a huge financial leak for African countries. I just need to point that out. Now coming back to the start.

Milton Allimadi (25:50.325)
No, that's a big story. That should be a standalone story. You're right.

Aya Fubara Eneli (25:57.152)
Coming back to this issue, first of all, it does look like for all intents and purposes, is a somewhat of a wind of change that is starting to sweep across Africa a little bit. We can feel the wind blowing. Now, unfortunately, we're still talking about octogenarians in most of these cases, because even with Odinga.

You know, it's 2025, he dies at 80. So when he was running in 2022, he was 77 years old. Where are the young people and why do our elders not see that part of their role as elders is to train up the next generation and to then give room and then step into that position of elder statesman or stateswoman where you give advice.

Adesoji Iginla (26:37.926)
Not sure.

Aya Fubara Eneli (26:49.704)
As opposed to you want to suck up all the energy and of course there's another story we're gonna cover that we'll get into that even more and so I do hope that we really are going to see a transition I don't know that Bia is going to and his people who have been used to that they're entitled now to money flowing into their personal accounts without check people don't usually like it when you stop the gravy train so it'll be interesting to see

how this works out. Haven't seen elections in Nigeria. I know how easy it is to stuff ballot boxes. I know how easy it is to go to a rural area where people cannot eat and basically tell them, I'm gonna give you the equivalent of a dollar, right? But that dollar is more than they have seen in three, four, five, six months. And tell them if you want to get this dollar, just go and vote here.

Adesoji Iginla (27:27.057)
Nope.

Aya Fubara Eneli (27:48.191)
So the fact that it takes 15 days for the election to be completely tabulated and the results announced, a lot can happen in 15 days. A whole lot can happen in 15 days. So we wait with bated breath, but we'll see.

Milton Allimadi (27:55.762)
Thank

Adesoji Iginla (27:59.719)
500 days,

Milton Allimadi (28:03.162)
right. Yeah, and it's

Milton Allimadi (28:08.933)
And the 15 days was selected deliberately for that purpose, to give them time to manipulate. You don't need 15 days to, even if you're counting one vote a day, that's nonsense. So I like what you pointed out in terms of the role of the elders, because that used to be the system even. If you go back to our traditional systems of governments, the elders had the most highest level of esteem

Adesoji Iginla (28:12.849)
Mmm.

Adesoji Iginla (28:22.865)
So speaking of the-

Adesoji Iginla (28:30.46)
Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (28:38.616)
and respect because they earned it. Right? They will not be running the show at that point. They become like senior advisors to the next crop of leaders. Right? We don't have that. We inherited the Eurocentric corrupt money-based politics. So that's part of problem. Now the other point that I think that might actually happen in Cameroon is very possible they could have a military coup as well. You're right.

Adesoji Iginla (28:46.215)
prices, yeah.

Milton Allimadi (29:06.734)
The people that are eating all the gravy train don't like giving up power. It's possible that some of the generals, you know, could come in, but then it's also possible that the junior officers could come in, either preempting the generals or coming and pushing the generals out if the generals take control first.

Adesoji Iginla (29:30.375)
Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli (29:31.718)
Like, like Tini Boo said, it's my turn.

Milton Allimadi (29:36.129)
Not for sure. Absolutely.

Adesoji Iginla (29:38.981)
Yeah, he did say that. Quick question. We've not touched on the neocolonial aspect of the present debacle that is Cameroon. Would that also play into the results of the elections?

Milton Allimadi (29:40.516)
Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (29:58.511)
Okay, I think that is sort of tied into one of the stories that you have also flagged for discussion. judging by that story and judging by what's already happened in West Africa, I think the French know what they can chew and what they can no longer chew.

Adesoji Iginla (30:03.259)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (30:08.219)
Mm.

Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (30:16.391)
Okay, so we'll save it for...

Aya Fubara Eneli (30:19.28)
I would say that in terms of that too, looking at the fact that this article was in the Financial Times and looking at the fact that they mentioned the age of, they led with the age of Bea, but buried the age of Bakari, he may at this point be the one that they're choosing. Listen, you know, they always have a way of setting you, so you read it and it's like, okay, in this story for them, Bakari is the good guy.

Milton Allimadi (30:36.703)
Right.

Adesoji Iginla (30:36.891)
Mm.

Milton Allimadi (30:43.191)
Thank

Aya Fubara Eneli (30:48.424)
So this like the story has shifted a little, the tides have shifted. So right now for the money guys, yeah, they've killed it.

Milton Allimadi (30:58.445)
Mr. 80 years old is preferable to 94.

Aya Fubara Eneli (31:02.523)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've made a choice. Yeah, so that might help him, that the imperialists do not really see him as too much of a threat because if they did, that story would have been written very differently.

Adesoji Iginla (31:05.383)
Okay.

Milton Allimadi (31:16.554)
Absolutely.

Adesoji Iginla (31:16.775)
Okay, speaking of stories written differently, we go to Cote d'Ivoire. And it's Cote d'Ivoire is also in the throes of an election. And they've gone and this story comes from Radio France International. And it's important to read through the lens of the French because of their, you know, supposed interest to see

what it is they consider important. So Cote d'Ivoire's opposition calls for daily protest ahead of presidential election. Cote d'Ivoire's two main opposition parties called on Sunday for daily protests less than two weeks before a presidential election in which their two main candidates are barred from running. And so it's, I'll just read a bit. At a march in Abidjan on Saturday, which has been banned by authorities before security forces.

dispersed crowds with tear gas. At least 237 people were arrested, according to Interior Minister Diomande. Cote d'Ivoire's government earlier this month imposed sweeping bans on meetings, rallies, protesting the exclusion of critics of President Alain Sarri-Quatarra from 25th October vote. Ex-leader Lauren Babo and Tijan Thiam, who lead the West African

Aya Fubara Eneli (32:22.528)
So, thank you.

Adesoji Iginla (32:43.121)
country's largest opposition parties are amongst the free girls who have been prevented from challenging the 83-year-old Guatara's bid for a fourth term. Okay, here we go again. So, over to you.

Milton Allimadi (33:01.039)
So I'm also reading some signals in what is left out. so our system brothers who follow this podcast, in addition to reading the words, you have to read what is being left out in stories. And in order to understand what is being left out, that's the importance of history comes in. So I always tell our people we cannot be liberated without knowing history.

Aya Fubara Eneli (33:07.996)
you

Adesoji Iginla (33:23.398)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (33:25.064)
you

Milton Allimadi (33:28.392)
History allows you to put things in broader context and then you start saying to yourself, wait a minute, why is this not being mentioned in this article? Just like the way we critiqued the previous article to this one. Why is the age of Bakari not emphasized and all that? So if you start spotting stuff like that, you can develop a skill of devising a better understanding of where things might flow or are flowing.

So in this case, the opposition is led by Thiam and Gbagbo. They don't mention that Gbagbo was the president whom France claimed had rigged elections, and they intervened militarily to remove him and take him away to the International Criminal Court and install Qatar as the president.

Aya Fubara Eneli (34:08.027)
. you

Milton Allimadi (34:27.471)
records. So that background has disappeared, you see, because now Babbo has been rehabilitated. And why would you rehabilitate? You only rehabilitate if you want to replace, you see? So that's one thing. And then the other opposition leader, Tiam, they don't mention that, but this guy made his reputation at Credit Suisse. The guy is the candidate of Wall Street.

Adesoji Iginla (34:27.655)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (34:35.355)
He did, yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (34:42.599)
you

Adesoji Iginla (34:55.815)
Yeah

Milton Allimadi (34:56.091)
The financial markets love this guy, right? So, but they don't mention that because that might diminish his credentials a little bit and not as a people's leader, but as an instrument of Western financial capital markets. So me and reading those, you know, those two or three things gives me an indication that they've also come to the conclusion that Alasdair Katara is also replaceable at this point.

Adesoji Iginla (35:00.187)
Mm-hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (35:25.583)
Okay sister.

Aya Fubara Eneli (35:30.776)
I'm so glad that you gave that history because as I was reading and I'm saying, what is their goal with this article? Because they don't just write articles on Africa to just inform.

You know, there's some propaganda.

Milton Allimadi (35:43.782)
Absolutely not. time out, out. Sister and brother, no, no, those are profound words. Whenever Western media, major corporate media write articles about Africa, it's never ever to inform. So once you keep that in mind, and then you can start looking for what is the true agenda. So I'm glad you said that, okay.

Adesoji Iginla (35:48.027)
laughter

Adesoji Iginla (35:54.919)
you

Adesoji Iginla (36:07.099)
Hmm. Okay. Could you repeat that line?

Aya Fubara Eneli (36:10.233)
We are, we are, we are, we are one today. We are, are absolutely one brother.

Milton Allimadi (36:13.919)
No, it's true though. I'm telling you, it's true. I never thought of it that way, but it's obviously in the back of my mind.

Aya Fubara Eneli (36:21.508)
Cause I was like, what is your point? Okay, so you're using your international space to validate that they're calling for protests in advance. So are you trying to delete, delegitimize the, the elections before they happen? Are you trying to turn, you know, create enough chaos where maybe another civil war or something breaks out? Like, okay, let me go back and see.

Adesoji Iginla (36:39.687)
Yep.

Aya Fubara Eneli (36:50.148)
Who has mineral interests here? Who benefits from chaos and Cote d'Ivoire? know, what is your actual game plan here? Because it's never about our peace and prosperity ever. So why would they amplify the voices of these leaders that they previously, you already gave the background. Why amplify their voices while they're calling for protest when typically you're gonna be trying to say, let's see how the.

Milton Allimadi (37:02.318)
Nope. Nope.

Aya Fubara Eneli (37:19.084)
electoral process plays out. What is the end goal? And I don't have the answer yet, except that I know for certain it is not about the benefit of the people of Cote d'Ivoire, there is another agenda at play here, but I'm not exactly sure what it is. But when you are amplifying a voice that is calling for protests,

And if there are rampant protests between now and October 25th when they're supposed to have that election, given what you see happening in other countries in this area, given what you see that just happened in Madagascar, what are you really aiming for? I don't know what the end game is here. And maybe it is that you throw it into so much chaos that the person in power that you put in power stays on. I don't know.

Adesoji Iginla (37:54.032)
election.

Aya Fubara Eneli (38:13.273)
Brother, I don't know if you have more of an analysis on what their end game could possibly be.

Milton Allimadi (38:20.093)
I mean, I can't answer that. mean, they're being kicked out of—I know for sure that this time they're not going to send any intervention force to keep somebody in power, like they did when they came and removed the bankbook. Those days of French imperialism, that type of gangboat outright, I think those days are clearly over.

Adesoji Iginla (38:20.24)
Okay, so.

yeah, what?

Adesoji Iginla (38:31.793)
Yeah, good.

Adesoji Iginla (38:40.249)
OK. So could we one?

Aya Fubara Eneli (38:41.528)
But now they just have to send drones though, they don't have to send people.

Milton Allimadi (38:46.814)
I think that would also cause harm to them because they have a lot of commercial interest still. They have storefronts and if people start attacking your storefronts physically, then it'll be like a total lose-lose for them.

Adesoji Iginla (38:58.969)
OK, so one other thing, could it also be a way of managing change, managing transition in light of what happened in Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger, and Guinea?

Milton Allimadi (39:06.591)
definitely.

Milton Allimadi (39:14.655)
Definitely, which in the end result is still capitulation. You know, because that's not the way French, I mean, France have done it for decades since Africa's so-called independence. So when you go to a situation where you now have to start to manage imperialism, it's a long way from having military bases in those countries, which is what, you know, France had, you know. I think Gabon, Gabon might be the only one now. Gabon, think, is the only one now.

Adesoji Iginla (39:18.695)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (39:35.768)
Which might explain why French yes

Adesoji Iginla (39:39.047)
Okay.

Milton Allimadi (39:44.263)
maybe with bases.

Aya Fubara Eneli (39:46.103)
Yeah, which might explain why France has gone through how many prime ministers in the last two years.

Adesoji Iginla (39:46.757)
Yeah, at the moment,

Milton Allimadi (39:52.722)
It's amazing. mean, you know, it's this aura of such a mighty superpower is now being exposed that you are enjoying all this because you are exporting resources from Africa. And now that exploitation is diminishing, it's becoming very difficult for you to even have stable governments. The economic woes are the ones that are weakening the government. The economic woes are becoming much more pronounced.

Aya Fubara Eneli (39:54.392)
It's done.

Adesoji Iginla (40:02.649)
Hmm

Milton Allimadi (40:20.249)
as the exploitation of Africa also diminishes. I don't know why any of these media don't want to draw a correlation between what is very obvious, you know.

Adesoji Iginla (40:30.801)
But it'd be difficult to do that. That would be like kicking one of their own while they're down. So yes.

Milton Allimadi (40:34.173)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (40:35.19)
You know, know this is not the focus of our story and I know we have limited time. Just real quick though, as we're thinking through this, I'm wondering how this plays out in terms of the EU now trying to minimize their dependence on United States and defense contractors or defense companies from the United States for weapons to defend themselves. I understand they're putting a massive amount of money towards contracts from their own, if you will.

Adesoji Iginla (41:04.775)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (41:04.792)
But when you have countries like France who no longer can depend on certain amounts of income, it limits what they're able to do and how that then plays into the felon in chief's game plan here, which is to use money to control people. So you see where he's just told Colombia that he's going to cancel all aid to the country of Colombia because

Adesoji Iginla (41:21.071)
idea of them.

Aya Fubara Eneli (41:33.592)
Petro came here and embarrassed him. And I think this year they had given like two, not they, my taxpayer money, United States government approved by the Congress, which apparently is now just the non-existence as a third arm of government, had approved and had gotten $207 million in aid.

Adesoji Iginla (41:51.63)
government.

Aya Fubara Eneli (41:58.411)
to Colombia. And so now Trump is saying unilaterally, I'm canceling everything because he has a personal issue with the current president. And so I'm wondering to the extent that nations like France lose their ability to extort, exploit, know, siphon money and resources out of Africa unchecked, how that weakens the EU and how that

Adesoji Iginla (42:20.581)
Africa.

Aya Fubara Eneli (42:27.692)
weakens their ability to in any way stand up to Trump and his authoritarianism with all of the money that the US has or pretends to have and all the nuclear weapons. Just wondering how this plays out on a global level.

Milton Allimadi (42:44.773)
Well, we have to do our homework too. I mean, because obviously this is a potential for African countries to take advantage, right? But we cannot take advantage so long as we have the Pogbia's, we have the Qatar's, we have the Museveni's who is also 81 and preparing to steal a vote in January. I think it's going to be difficult to him just judging by the size of the young people coming out to Bobby Wine's campaigns.

Adesoji Iginla (42:45.095)
Mm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (43:10.923)
Mm-hmm.

Milton Allimadi (43:14.306)
But this is the moment for us to actually start now, dictating the terms of what we want to be paid for our resources. These countries are going to go back to their pre-15th century level, when our economies were on par with them, or in fact, maybe we were ahead of them because we've always had the resources, right? They're going to go back to that level, you know, without a doubt. If we all get our act together.

Aya Fubara Eneli (43:27.255)
you

Aya Fubara Eneli (43:32.31)
We wear our hats. We wear our hats.

Milton Allimadi (43:42.997)
and just stop this blatant exploitation. And then the United States, you know, it says does not want to face its own crises. The US, because of the concentration of wealth among such an elite small minority, and no investment in education, no investment in healthcare, no investment in infrastructure, the United States without a doubt will not be able to withstand the competition from China. You see?

Aya Fubara Eneli (44:08.758)
So.

Milton Allimadi (44:11.327)
And it's very obvious to most people right now. And that is the period where Africa should use that opportunity to keep growing, to keep growing, so long as we have competent leaders. I think we see a start with the guys in the alliance of the Sahel states. That is a start. And I think that's why we're seeing this being replicated in other African countries now. I mean, I don't think young Africans have a particular adoration for the military taking over.

Aya Fubara Eneli (44:37.621)
you

Adesoji Iginla (44:40.027)
Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (44:41.185)
But they want somebody who is not a puppet of the West and somebody who says, are going to have the majority control of our resources and we are going to industrialize. And that's what these guys are saying. That's what is common amongst them, you see.

Aya Fubara Eneli (44:50.438)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (44:57.539)
Okay, okay. So speaking of the youth speaking up, we go to our final story, which again comes from Radio France International. And it's that France has evacuated Madagascar's president amid protest and army revolt. Madagascar's president Andrea Rapoliliano

has been evacuated from the country by a French military plane as protest and a military mutiny threatens to topple his government. RFI has confirmed. And I'll just read a bit. The evacuation followed an agreement with French President Emmanuel Macron. French authorities said they were not intervening in Madagascar's internal crisis, which had rocked the country since 25th of September. The unrest began

Milton Allimadi (45:45.622)
in

Aya Fubara Eneli (45:46.158)
. you

Adesoji Iginla (45:51.225)
over widespread water and electricity cuts, but has grown into a nationwide movement demanding Rappu Liliano's resignation. Security forces have used force to disperse demonstrations, while offices backing the protesters have taken control of the paramilitary gendarme. Your take in light of the previous stories. France again stepping in to the bridge.

Milton Allimadi (46:19.455)
Alright, so I think that same plane may be parked somewhere near Ivory Coast now. Or actually Cameroon first, so it's parked near Cameroon. And then after that, it's assignment might be to be parked somewhere close to Ivory Coast. What I like the most about this story is actually just one thing. That soldiers refused to fire on the protesters.

Aya Fubara Eneli (46:21.457)
You

Adesoji Iginla (46:25.095)
You

Aya Fubara Eneli (46:31.933)
Okay.

Adesoji Iginla (46:37.317)
Mmm.

Okay. Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (46:47.741)
Yes.

Milton Allimadi (46:49.126)
And I'm saying, I hope this sends a signal to soldiers in every African country. That's not what you went to the military academy for. But unfortunately in the past, soldiers of course, much harm to African civilians, unarmed African civilians. You can't be doing what the apartheid racist military used to do against people in Soweto.

Aya Fubara Eneli (46:59.769)
. .

Adesoji Iginla (47:12.827)
government.

Milton Allimadi (47:18.142)
people in Charlottesville, right? If it was horrific for Europeans to be doing it against Africans, it should not be less horrific when African soldiers do it to some of the Africans. So I was really elated when I saw the soldiers driving with their armed vehicles and inviting civilians to come ride with them. And that obviously is when the president said he was going to make a speech.

Adesoji Iginla (47:40.283)
common.

Milton Allimadi (47:46.288)
And he never made that speech because by that time he was on a plane, of course.

Adesoji Iginla (47:50.599)
OK, sister.

Aya Fubara Eneli (47:57.235)
He ran to his master. He didn't call any African leader.

Milton Allimadi (47:59.889)
Yes, absolutely. That's when the truth is revealed, you know.

Adesoji Iginla (48:00.199)
Okay.

Aya Fubara Eneli (48:05.918)
Exactly! You know, like when you're a kid and you get your father upset or whatever, you know you're about to get a spanking, what do you do? You run and go and hide behind your mother's skirts. You know, for us, when my grandparents were around, we would go and hide behind our grandparents because we knew that our parents would never challenge their elder. And we were safe until...

Adesoji Iginla (48:26.705)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (48:32.69)
My grandparents would have to at some point go back to their own home. And so the fact that as soon as the fire got hot, he immediately called these people. And of course they responded. He's been doing their bidding all this time, because otherwise also why would they respond and get him out there quickly?

Adesoji Iginla (48:38.565)
Hmm.

Milton Allimadi (48:55.171)
Absolutely.

Aya Fubara Eneli (48:56.602)
And so the fact that we have not really had sovereign nations continues to be exposed on a daily basis at this time. I want to say, I want to just give a shout out to our young people. We keep talking about how, you know, Africa has the youngest population and, you know, the high rate of unemployment and so on and so forth. have such enterprising young people in Africa who are just looking for an opportunity.

Milton Allimadi (49:02.691)
Yeah. Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (49:24.189)
And I am glad that these young people are not waiting on the elites anymore. They're not waiting on the, they're tired of our big English and all of this, or French or whatever we're speaking. They're just like, you know what? We're gonna make this happen. And they put their bodies on the line. They went out into the streets and thank God, like he pointed out, that the military chose not to use violence against them, although clearly they were ready for that.

Milton Allimadi (49:24.433)
Thank for saying that. Thank you for saying that. I want to add something to that. Go ahead.

Milton Allimadi (49:53.217)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (49:54.469)
and they've in turn sided with them. Now what happens in the interim? That's always the issue. I know that the military is saying elections in two years, but again, power has a way of corrupting people. You get in there and you realize, wait a second, this is what is in the treasury? I got a house to build, I got some more wives to marry, some Maybachs to purchase. So hopefully our young people can continue to keep them honest, but kudos.

to the young people of Madagascar. And for those of you who are absolutely surprised, yes, Madagascar is not just a movie. It is a country in Africa. Imagine that. It has a lot more than the dancing hippo and the other animals. It is a full blown country blessed with a lot of resources that has been under, no, seriously, even the stupid president, ex-president now.

Milton Allimadi (50:40.173)
Yeah.

Aya Fubara Eneli (50:53.285)
was trying to sell animals and things trying to capitalize on this notion of Madagascar as this Disney concept or whatever it is. yeah, Madagascar is a fool. It's not Wakanda. It actually is a real country in Africa. I know that it comes as a surprise to some people. Just had to that out there.

Adesoji Iginla (51:01.273)
movie.

Milton Allimadi (51:11.655)
Yeah. No, very good. I like what you said in terms of the young people in Africa being entrepreneurial. This is obvious to anybody that goes to the continent. was talking to this French businessman a couple of years ago, and he told me that one of the things that astounded him when he visits African countries is the

Adesoji Iginla (51:11.885)
Hmm.

Milton Allimadi (51:41.04)
entrepreneurship of the young people and their creativity and imagination. All they lack is seed capital. And he's saying, even if these banks, instead of giving millions of dollars in loans to corrupt ministers who never repay the loans anyway, just seed these individuals with a few thousands of dollars, they would just grow up their enterprises.

Aya Fubara Eneli (51:50.25)
Yep.

Adesoji Iginla (52:09.831)
Mm.

Milton Allimadi (52:11.826)
He seated somebody he met, and I forgot how he was assembling the gadgets together to charge people's phones, right? He created something which incorporated some solar energy and all that. And people would come and charge their phones and wait for it to be charged and they would pay him. And he pitched the idea to this stranger, this French man who he just met. And the French guy seated him so he could

Adesoji Iginla (52:21.573)
Hmm.

Milton Allimadi (52:41.836)
replicate those portals and he made 10 of them. And you know, for my young street guy, this guy had now become like a quote unquote businessman, you know? And that's just one example of multiple types of entrepreneurial projects that could be seeded for these young people.

Adesoji Iginla (52:55.011)
Mm.

Adesoji Iginla (53:04.695)
I want to, I just want to point out the neo-colonial angle of the story. The fact that the guy hopped on a plane to France highlights one major problem. He's a dual citizenship. He's got dual citizenship. He's both French and Malagasy, which in itself is a problem. If you believe in your country, why are you holding the passport of another country? Where does your allegiance lie? That's one. Two is the fact that

Aya Fubara Eneli (53:20.689)
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

Milton Allimadi (53:21.627)
Mm-hmm.

Adesoji Iginla (53:32.999)
when you pointed out history earlier, people should not forget that Madagascar was where one young captain learned how people organized themselves when he saw how they organized and push out the French in 1973. And that captain was Captain Tomo Sankara. He saw the people organizing and that was the basis

of his questions to his own countrymen. That look, there are young people over there organizing, and he saw the role of the military, which is what you alluded to. The military then did not fire on the demonstrators. So the military now remember that they were on the side of the people. So this movement of memory continues among the African population. It is only when we get news articles like this.

Aya Fubara Eneli (54:25.333)
huh. you

Adesoji Iginla (54:32.369)
that release out those important clues as to what happened previously. Instead, what they're doing is narrating what they want us, as the good sister say, not to inform us, to tell us what it is our true reality is, whereas we know better. So I just wanted to add that.

Milton Allimadi (54:35.429)
Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (54:52.677)
Yeah.

Adesoji Iginla (54:56.679)
So that's it. Do you have any final thoughts since we've come to the end of this week's episode? And sister in Tennessee?

Aya Fubara Eneli (55:13.582)
Just again, just grateful for you, grateful for the insights from comrade Milton Alamadi. Brother, you blow my mind every time. I have to go read more. I realize how ignorant I am. Thank you for this opportunity. Brother Adesuji, thank you for your work.

Milton Allimadi (55:20.378)
of Santa and we're like vines, like rice.

Milton Allimadi (55:27.139)
this one's too hard.

Milton Allimadi (55:34.393)
Santa Sara.

Adesoji Iginla (55:34.561)
Thank you for contributing. It's important work that we do because yes, the history books exist, but the history continues. The history plays out every day. The problem with the Western media is when they're talking about Africa, they leave out the history and there is a big reason why they do.

Milton Allimadi (55:54.936)
Yeah, but it's not a problem. They fulfill their function. It's up to us to decipher and hit back.

Adesoji Iginla (56:03.157)
Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Yes.

Aya Fubara Eneli (56:05.807)
One quick thing that I want to say. So in Madagascar, the people, the army decided not to obey the orders of this corrupt president that they had. In the United States of America, where Trump and Hexseth are summarily firing so many of the

top military leaders, Air Force, Naval, Coast Guard, Army, all of that, they're either firing them or making things like either pledge allegiance to me or that the people are resigning. The question is, will the Army, will the military in the United States be able to, because

Milton Allimadi (56:40.802)
Run. Run.

Adesoji Iginla (56:50.458)
Impossible.

Aya Fubara Eneli (57:04.398)
The Supreme Court is bought and paid for. Unless we are able to have a free and fair election where we change what's happening with the Congress, they clearly have capitulated. They've given up their power. So the one branch that is not actually recognized as a branch of government that might be able to stay

Adesoji Iginla (57:08.123)
Hmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (57:32.269)
The evil of this madman is the military. And the question is, will they be able to rise up and actually, even though I have issues with the US constitution, but will they be able to at least defend the constitution as opposed to defending the agenda of these oligarchs using Trump as a product? I don't know.

Milton Allimadi (57:38.156)
Without a doubt. mean, first of all,

Adesoji Iginla (57:58.981)
Hmm

Milton Allimadi (57:59.587)
The answer is yes. The answer is yes from my perspective. You can only push trained generals that have earned their stripes, their badges, even in the end, of course, clearly in operations that I totally oppose because all there was was imperialism. But nonetheless, they have

Adesoji Iginla (58:12.262)
stripes.

Adesoji Iginla (58:22.663)
I imperialism, yeah.

Milton Allimadi (58:28.162)
paid within their own system, what they call the dues. So to congregate all of them like that and have a guy who keeps a bottle of whiskey in his pocket, you know, humiliate them like that, you know, the so-called defense.

Aya Fubara Eneli (58:44.162)
Who came from the National Guard? No offense, I got lots of friends in the National Guard. But now that is your defense secretary and is now making... Wow.

Milton Allimadi (58:53.634)
Absolutely. So these generals are not robots, obviously. So they think about that. And there's a limit. I don't know what that limit is for this country yet. But I think there's a limit that he will not be allowed to cross. First of all, there are stories that January 6th alone, there were senior officers that

Adesoji Iginla (59:07.655)
Mmm.

Milton Allimadi (59:23.188)
refused his orders on that episode alone. So obviously that was a potential limit for that, you see?

Adesoji Iginla (59:31.174)
Mmm.

Aya Fubara Eneli (59:31.266)
Which is why he now had to gut that senior leadership because they weren't going along with him. Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (59:36.469)
no, but there are too many generals. There are too many generals. There are too many generals. That's a good thing about this country. The armed forces are too big for one individual to control. So if we reach that limit again, I would be not shocked if a few of them get on WhatsApp and say to themselves, obviously we know what we're going to do or not do, right? It's more likely disobey orders.

Aya Fubara Eneli (01:00:02.85)
Well, they know because Hex said that apparently telegraphs everything on signal. He's not even using the usual channels. Apparently anybody can figure out what's going on. Yeah.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:11.402)
next

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So you raise a good question and my answer is yes, there's a limit that even he would not be able to cross. That's my assessment.

Adesoji Iginla (01:00:26.119)
Okay. Thank you very much. on that optimistic note, I will see you all next week. And until then, good night and God bless.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:32.778)
See you next week.

Milton Allimadi (01:00:39.678)
Asante sana. Be well.